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July 13, 2015, 12:41 AM #0

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Hi i just want to know if Roll Cage is illegal thanks
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    July 13, 2015, 12:57 AM #1

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    For competition at the Co-Op Res River Speed Way no I don't think so. If fact depending on your class you will need it.

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      July 13, 2015, 02:12 AM #2

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      While driving the vehicle on public roads I believe that if it has door bars they must be removable and other than that there must be padding on the bars in the car so that you can't smash your head on them.  Other than they are legal AFAIK.
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        July 13, 2015, 05:33 AM #3

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        I don't think there are any laws concerning roll cages at all actually...I just don't like having one in street cars.
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          July 13, 2015, 09:25 AM #4

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          Thank you for the replies
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            July 13, 2015, 09:43 AM #5

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            Why do you want a roll cage? Is this for a Destruction Derby Car or your Daily Driver?

              July 13, 2015, 11:09 AM #6

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              Originally posted by themikewoo
              Why do you want a roll cage? Is this for a Destruction Derby Car or your Daily Driver?

              Same thing!
              Originally posted by: Forced Performance
              Your significant other can only be mad for a while but your car can be slow forever.
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                July 19, 2015, 03:20 PM #7

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                  July 19, 2015, 03:57 PM #8

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                  Originally posted by evil x
                  Hi i just want to know if Roll Cage is illegal thanks
                  No, but sometimes I wish Nick Cage was
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                    July 19, 2015, 04:11 PM #9

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                    Originally posted by Sloppyclock
                    Better be for style points
                    -25 points for being a ricer if the cage is not required or certified from a motorsports sanctioning body in North America. Cages don't belong on the street period.

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                      Originally posted by Magner
                      -25 points for being a ricer if the cage is not required or certified from a motorsports sanctioning body in North America. Cages don't belong on the street period.
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                          Originally posted by Magner
                          -25 points for being a ricer if the cage is not required or certified from a motorsports sanctioning body in North America. Cages don't belong on the street period.

                          Roll bars are cool though..
                          Originally posted by: Forced Performance
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                            July 19, 2015, 11:50 PM #13

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                            Originally posted by Magner
                            -25 points for being a ricer if the cage is not required or certified from a motorsports sanctioning body in North America. Cages don't belong on the street period.
                            What if one drives his 9sec drag car on the street? Going to guff him because hes got a cage?
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                              Originally posted by benz88
                              What if one drives his 9sec drag car on the street? Going to guff him because hes got a cage?


                              Of course,  why wouldn't you "guff" Him?
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                              If a car is shows that a solid effort was made, and the car is reasonably well executed I can respect that. Even if it's not my cup of tea..

                                July 20, 2015, 03:46 PM #15

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                                why not just get a roll bar?

                                  February 03, 2016, 03:51 PM #16

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                                  Has anyone gotten any updates on this roll cage question?
                                  I would love to keep the roll cage in my daily.
                                  There are no bars across the doors. It just has the frame around the front windshield, goes above and along the bottom of the doors. Then behind the seats the usual rear with a diagonal cross bar.

                                  The cage makes me feel safer.

                                    February 03, 2016, 04:41 PM #17

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                                    Originally posted by sunshine
                                    The cage makes me feel safer.
                                    A cage is only one component of a car's safety system. A cage become a huge safety hazard for the driver and passengers unless it is used in conjunction with all  the other adequate safety devices, helmet, harness, seat etc. Next time you sit in your car take a good, hard look at the tubes near your body and think what would happen if they made contact at any speed.

                                    Cages don't belong on the street, period.

                                    Last Edit: February 03, 2016, 04:51 PM by Magner

                                      February 03, 2016, 05:03 PM #18

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                                      Originally posted by Magner
                                      A cage is only one component of a car's safety system. A cage become a huge safety hazard for the driver and passengers unless it is used in conjunction with all  the other adequate safety devices, helmet, harness, seat etc. Next time you sit in your car take a good, hard look at the tubes near your body and think what would happen if they made contact at any speed.

                                      Cages don't belong on the street, period.


                                      thanks for the concern.

                                      I'll check it out again more carefully but looking yesterday I would have to get thrown forward past the steering wheel into the side or tossed up off the seat to the top of the door to make contact.

                                      In any case I think a collision hard enough for the cage to seriously hurt me will mess me up pretty bad without it too.
                                      I'm now kind of leaning towards removing it. Plus weight savings without it.
                                      Last Edit: February 03, 2016, 05:05 PM by sunshine

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                                        Originally posted by sunshine
                                        thanks for the concern.

                                        I'll check it out again more carefully but looking yesterday I would have to get thrown forward past the steering wheel into the side or tossed up off the seat to the top of the door to make contact.

                                        In any case I think a collision hard enough for the cage to seriously hurt me will mess me up pretty bad without it too.
                                        I'm now kind of leaning towards removing it. Plus weight savings without it.

                                        It doesn't take much to throw your body around, slow 40km/h Crash tests: 

                                        Add in a piece of pipe next to your head is is going to leave a mark.

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                                          Originally posted by sunshine
                                          In any case I think a collision hard enough for the cage to seriously hurt me will mess me up pretty bad without it too.

                                          No. Your car is designed to protect you by reacting to impacts in a predictable manner that doesn't involve a cage. I can't say if a cage will lessen or increase your chances or severity of injury because it's untested. A cage is designed to protect occupants in conjunction with a fixed back seat and harness. On the street YMMV. I don't think it automatically becomes a death trap, unless it intrudes in the cabin space a great deal, but you inevitably assume the risk of making contact with it during a collision, and it will not feel good if you do. A cage without door bars won't do much unless you roll over, something modern cars are already designed to survive, unless you are going at race car speeds, in which case a roll cage gets to do its job.
                                          Last Edit: February 03, 2016, 10:43 PM by firelizard

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                                            Originally posted by firelizard
                                            No. Your car is designed to protect you by reacting to impacts in a predictable manner that doesn't involve a cage. I can't say if a cage will lessen or increase your chances or severity of injury because it's untested. A cage is designed to protect occupants in conjunction with a fixed back seat and harness. On the street YMMV. I don't think it automatically becomes a death trap, unless it intrudes in the cabin space a great deal, but you inevitably assume the risk of making contact with it during a collision, and it will not feel good if you do. A cage without door bars won't do much unless you roll over, something modern cars are already designed to survive, unless you are going at race car speeds, in which case a roll cage gets to do its job.

                                            My car is a little tin can and would most likely kill me if I hit or got hit at 100km/hr. I wouldn't trust it in a roll over either.

                                            I guess my view on the roll cage is a little different since I'm kind of short my head is nowhere near the bar.

                                            So when I remove the roll cage are there any other options for increasing safety in case of an accident?
                                            Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 06:26 PM by sunshine

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                                              Originally posted by sunshine
                                              My car is a little tin can and would most likely kill me if I hit or got hit at 100km/hr. I wouldn't trust it in a roll over either.

                                              I guess my view on the roll cage is a little different since I'm kind of short my head is nowhere near the bar.

                                              So when I remove the roll cage are there any other options for increasing safety in case of an accident?
                                              1) Don't crash
                                              2) Buy a car that's safe

                                              You'd be surprised how far your head will travel in a collision at a decent speed, add in potential intrusion into the passenger compartment and your head could be making sweet love to that bar quicker than you think.

                                              Have you considered buying a Volvo?
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                                                Originally posted by Nhil
                                                1) Don't crash
                                                2) Buy a car that's safe

                                                You'd be surprised how far your head will travel in a collision at a decent speed, add in potential intrusion into the passenger compartment and your head could be making sweet love to that bar quicker than you think.

                                                Have you considered buying a Volvo?
                                                I'll do my best to not crash.
                                                I have thought of a volvo but I want those models we don't get here in Canada.

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                                                  Originally posted by sunshine
                                                  My car is a little tin can

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