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September 22, 2015, 02:36 PM #25

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Originally posted by jordisonjr
I wouldn't do this.
Did it one year I stored my car and wouldn't do it again. It keeps the suspension at an unnatural (sagging) position.
If I were to go the route of taking weight off of the wheels I'd remove the tires and lower the car onto wood blocks to keep the suspension at a natural position
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    September 22, 2015, 02:45 PM #26

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    Originally posted by jordisonjr
    I wouldn't do this.
    Did it one year I stored my car and wouldn't do it again. It keeps the suspension at an unnatural (sagging) position.

    Agreed. I'd rather keep weight on the suspension and have the car at normal ride height.

      September 22, 2015, 02:58 PM #27

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      Originally posted by jordisonjr
      I wouldn't do this.
      Did it one year I stored my car and wouldn't do it again. It keeps the suspension at an unnatural (sagging) position.

      i think he meant also putting blocks under the control arms and the frame/pinch welds (we spoke about that last week in a PM)

        September 22, 2015, 03:04 PM #28

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        It all depends on the tire you're running. if you have a high end summer tire, then yeah, take extra precautions. If you're running anything else, just park the car and make snowmen all day long.
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          Originally posted by Dan
          i think he meant also putting blocks under the control arms and the frame/pinch welds (we spoke about that last week in a PM)
          Either way, its still an unnatural position for a car. Bearing on the control arms is a different load transfer than bearing on the studs/wheels.
          If you're Really worried about your tires. Buy some crappy old wheels/tires that hold air that you don't plan to drive on.
          Originally posted by Madbuzz41
          I'm not a fan of blowing for a long time anyways ; )


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            September 22, 2015, 03:56 PM #30

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            Originally posted by jordisonjr
            Either way, its still an unnatural position for a car. Bearing on the control arms is a different load transfer than bearing on the studs/wheels.
            If you're Really worried about your tires. Buy some crappy old wheels/tires that hold air that you don't plan to drive on.

            almost every single new car dealer stores their cars outside year round. Some of their inventory will sit over the course of a winter and not move. All of them drive fine and none come back with square tires lol
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              September 22, 2015, 04:07 PM #31

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              lol all i can think of is


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                I used to take my Dunlops and Works off the civic when I stored it.
                Put the OEM wheels on with the junk Michelins.
                If I got a flat spot, I wasn't concerned.

                The Works & Dunlops were stacked neatly in my closet. A garbage bag over each wheel, and a towel in between.

                  September 22, 2015, 04:49 PM #33

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                  Stacks in the basement. Kal Tire is storing my winters for me because I ran out of room and I'm lazy.

                    September 22, 2015, 05:36 PM #34

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                        Originally posted by Matthew
                        Since heat and exposure to the elements are the important factors that influence a tire's aging process, drivers can prolong their tire's life by minimizing their impact. Here are some tips for storing tires that will not be used continuously.

                        Don't store a vehicle with weight on its tires for extended periods of time. Long-term inactivity is more harmful to tires than weekly drives that flex the tires and help maintain oil dispersion within the rubber compounds.
                        Keep the tires out of direct sunlight whenever possible. The sun's ultraviolet rays and radiant heat are detrimental to rubber. We have used a pyrometer to measure tires that were simply sitting in direct sunlight on a parked vehicle. Surprisingly those tires' temperatures measured 135 Fahrenheit on their surface.
                        Before storing, use a tire brush to clean each tire with soap and water to remove brake dust, dirt and grime. If the tires are still mounted on wheels, use a wheel brush to clean the wheels with an approved cleaner as well. Dry with a towel and let any remaining moisture thoroughly evaporate.
                        DO NOT APPLY ANY TIRE DRESSINGS. Tire compounds are formulated to resist ozone cracking or weather checking.
                        Place each clean and dry tire in its own large, opaque, airtight plastic bag (such as lawn and garden bags) for storing. Avoid allowing any moisture to remain and remove as much air as practical (some drivers even use a vacuum cleaner to draw out as much as possible). Close the bag tightly and tape it shut. This places the tire in its own personal mini-atmosphere to help reduce oil evaporation.
                        While Seasonal Tire Totes make it neater to store tires, easier to carry tires and reduce the possibility of depositing brake dust, dirt and grime in the trunk or on the back seat during transportation, Seasonal Tire Totes are not airtight nor designed to prevent exposure to the atmosphere. The recommended solution would be to place each clean tire and wheel into the airtight plastic bag and then cover the sealed bag with a Tire Tote.
                        If you choose not to store white letter/white stripe tires in plastic bags, it is important they be stored or stacked white-to-white and black-to-black to prevent staining the white rubber. The black rubber used on the tires' white letter/white stripe side is compounded differently then the black rubber used on the opposite side. A layer of non-staining black rubber covers the white rubber on the tire's white side to prevent oils in the tire from migrating into the exposed white rubber and discoloring it; however the black sidewall uses standard rubber. Stacking all tires white sidewall up will allow the oils from each tire's black sidewall to migrate into the white rubber of the tire below it.
                        Place the tires in a cool, dry location. It is better to store tires in a dry basement or climate-controlled workshop than in a standard garage, storage shed, hot attic or outdoors. While basement and shop surroundings tend to remain cool and dry, conditions found in typical garage, shed, attic and outdoor locations often include a wide range of hot and cold temperatures, as well as seasonal precipitation and humidity.
                        Keep the tires away from sources of ozone. Electric motors that use contact brushes generate ozone. Keep your tires away from the furnace, sump pump, etc.
                        While tires will age somewhat regardless of what precautions are taken, these procedures will help slow the process compared to taking no precautions at all.
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                          September 22, 2015, 08:12 PM #37

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                          I use them as decoration in my room haha. As for my stock wheels I store them at the tire rack at work as I don't trust anyone with my summer wheels at work.
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                            Originally posted by alexatwork21
                            almost every single new car dealer stores their cars outside year round. Some of their inventory will sit over the course of a winter and not move. All of them drive fine and none come back with square tires lol
                            They store them without wheels, and blocks under the control arms?
                            Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                            I'm not a fan of blowing for a long time anyways ; )


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                              Originally posted by jordisonjr
                              I wouldn't do this.
                              Did it one year I stored my car and wouldn't do it again. It keeps the suspension at an unnatural (sagging) position.

                              What's the downside of this?  Are your springs going to get longer over the winter?

                              I've got a wall mounted tire rack I store mine on, in a heated garage.
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                                September 24, 2015, 10:22 AM #40

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                                Originally posted by IanB
                                What's the downside of this?  Are your springs going to get longer over the winter?

                                I've got a wall mounted tire rack I store mine on, in a heated garage.
                                Puts stress on bushings. also puts stress on sway bar links, ball joints, etc... 

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                                  Originally posted by IanB
                                  What's the downside of this?  Are your springs going to get longer over the winter?

                                  I've got a wall mounted tire rack I store mine on, in a heated garage.
                                  same idea as how new suspension comes there's no weight on new struts/springs  I don't see a shelf life,  it would however possibly take a bit of driving to get your suspension to settle again
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                                    Originally posted by Dan
                                    Puts stress on bushings. also puts stress on sway bar links, ball joints, etc... 

                                    Those components will see more stress on the drive to pick up milk and bread than they will sitting at full droop for the winter.  The suspension is still within it's normal operating range, just without the weight of the vehicle on it. 

                                    I'm not saying this is the right way to winter store your vehicle, I just don't see how it's going to do any harm.
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                                        Originally posted by IanB
                                        Those components will see more stress on the drive to pick up milk and bread than they will sitting at full droop for the winter.  The suspension is still within it's normal operating range, just without the weight of the vehicle on it. 

                                        I'm not saying this is the right way to winter store your vehicle, I just don't see how it's going to do any harm.

                                        No, bushings and ball joints are designed to be at rest in a certain position. They are designed to move within a range of motion and be at an ideal angle while at rest.They are not meant to be stressed at the angles of an unloaded suspension for months on end. This is the same reason lowering a car a lot will put extra wear on things like tie rod ends or other ball joints when the angle of the control arm/tie rod is extreme. It is the automotive equivalent of falling asleep with your arm in a bad position. You will wake up sore because of the stress on your joints.
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                                          Originally posted by firelizard
                                          No, bushings and ball joints are designed to be at rest in a certain position. They are designed to move within a range of motion and be at an ideal angle while at rest.They are not meant to be stressed at the angles of an unloaded suspension for months on end. This is the same reason lowering a car a lot will put extra wear on things like tie rod ends or other ball joints when the angle of the control arm/tie rod is extreme. It is the automotive equivalent of falling asleep with your arm in a bad position. You will wake up sore because of the stress on your joints.

                                          There may be some truth to this, but your elbow is fine within a few minutes of sleeping on it funny, it's not compromised, lol.  The stresses of being at full droop are static, if it's fine after a few hours, it's likely going to be just as fine after a few months I would think.  A lowered car is subjected to all the same stresses as any car being driven on the streets, but with the funny angles, it's a whole different situation that storing a car on jackstands.
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