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If anyone is looking for new tires you should check out tireset.ca

My BFGoodrich Rival S 225/45/15 were $806 Cnd (taxes & shipping all in) for a set of 4

Tire Rack would have been $300 more, and this way my money stays in Canada.
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    Nice, looks like for my size they are listed cheaper than 1010 for some models, same or a little bit more for others..
    Definitely adding it to the list of sites to shop from.

    How long did it take to get your tires from them?

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        Originally posted by Coach
        If anyone is looking for new tires you should check out tireset.ca

        My BFGoodrich Rival S 225/45/15 were $806 Cnd (taxes & shipping all in) for a set of 4

        Tire Rack would have been $300 more, and this way my money stays in Canada.

        How do you like those tires? Was looking at those

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          Originally posted by Madbuzz41
          How do you like those tires? Was looking at those
          Note there's 2 types of BFG Rival tires. The original "Rivals" have a longer wear life and slightly higher operating temperature range than the newer "Rival S"model which wears faster but offers more grip, heat tolerance is also not as good as the original.

          Both tires are poor wet weather choices due the tread pattern and low tread depth when new 7/32. I would not use either on daily driver for this reason.

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            Originally posted by Magner
            Note there's 2 types of BFG Rival tires. The original "Rivals" have a longer wear life and slightly higher operating temperature range than the newer "Rival S"model which wears faster but offers more grip, heat tolerance is also not as good as the original.

            Both tires are poor wet weather choices due the tread pattern and low tread depth when new 7/32. I would not use either on daily driver for this reason.

            I drive my car 1 maybe 2 days a week in the summer and it's usually only out for 3-4 months. Wondering how long they'd last

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              Originally posted by Madbuzz41
              I drive my car 1 maybe 2 days a week in the summer and it's usually only out for 3-4 months. Wondering how long they'd last
              Just get Hankook Ventus or Conti DWs.
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                Originally posted by Vince
                Just get Hankook Ventus or Conti DWs.

                I was siding towards Nitto Nt01 or R888 tbh just ill give em a looksee

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                  Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                  I was siding towards Nitto Nt01 or R888 tbh just ill give em a looksee
                  Unaware about NT01s, but R888s are more of a track oriented tire than a DD tire.
                  http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDetailsServlet?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R888

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                    Originally posted by Vince
                    Unaware about NT01s, but R888s are more of a track oriented tire than a DD tire.
                    http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDetailsServlet?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R888
                    NT01 are an r comp tire.

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                      Originally posted by Vince
                      Unaware about NT01s, but R888s are more of a track oriented tire than a DD tire.
                      http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDetailsServlet?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R888

                      It's not a DD tho , I know they're track tires. That's why I'm asking around on people's opinions on tires they bought etc

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                        Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                        It's not a DD tho , I know they're track tires. That's why I'm asking around on people's opinions on tires they bought etc
                        I meant DD because you don't track it at all. You'd see no real benefit from those tires AFAIK, hence why I suggested Ventus or ExtremeContact DW's. They'd last longer and be better in wet conditions.

                        I have Ventus v12 evo's and I love them. They've got amazing grip, no road noise and they don't have to be hot to actually perform fully.
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                          Originally posted by Vince
                          Unaware about NT01s, but R888s are more of a track oriented tire than a DD tire.
                          http://m.tirerack.com/tires/TireDetailsServlet?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R888
                          Both of these tires are intended to be used primarily as track day tires. When they first came out ~10 years ago the idea was to allow for a track day enthusiast to drive to the track, runs a few laps and drive back home with 1 set of tires. They were never intended as a street tire, think more of track tire with just enough street tire manner to get you to and from the track. Extremely poor choice on the street, excessive wear, excessive noise, and next to no wet traction. These old tech tires worked on the track because they were designed to only get sticky once they got very hot  (in the hottest of summer days it would still take multiple auto-x runs to get them hot enough, impossible to get them up to temp on the street). A true street tire like Conti DW would feel and drive much better while actually offering more grip at ambient temps. The R888 actually has a terrible reputation as a track tire, just all around poor performer.

                          In just the last few years the modern 200TW is at a point where it can hang with these old track tires of yesteryear's without sacrificing road matters. These really are a true dual purpose tire (although the line is getting blurred with tires like the Rival), but if you won't be doing any sanctioned events these would not be your best bet due to the extra cost and sacrificed life for the grip which could never be utilized on the street.

                          Vince suggested some excellent tire choices, if you plan to drive the car a few times a week during the summer max or ultra high performance tires would be a good pick for you, based on your driving habit they could last you several years. Here is more info and a breakdown choices in these categories:
                          http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP
                          http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP
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                                Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                How do you like those tires? Was looking at those

                                The BFGoodrich Rival S is a fantastic tire, the first version of the Rival was also a very good tire.  It's very hard to pick between them, but I would have to say the Rival S does have more grip but not as much as you would think.  The Rival S wears out much faster, so if money is your concern then the older Rival is a much better bang for your buck.  As far as grip on the street goes, they are great no matter where you are driving.

                                In terms of the rain, I disagree.  In my car these tires do well in the rain on the track, it's the hydro planning I do with a 225 on the highway that is tough.

                                Heat was never a issue with the older Rival, the Rival S only got too hot when co-driving on a very hot day.

                                There is no way I could get 2 seasons out of either the Rival or the Rival S.  I generally buy a new set every year.

                                Overall a great tire.
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                                  Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                  It's not a DD tho , I know they're track tires. That's why I'm asking around on people's opinions on tires they bought etc
                                  why would you get track tires? I remember you mentioning you can't autocross the 500 due to height and wheel base specs? Would you be able to go to the track? Personally I think they'd be way overkill.
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                                    Originally posted by Miguel
                                    why would you get track tires? I remember you mentioning you can't autocross the 500 due to height and wheel base specs? Would you be able to go to the track? Personally I think they'd be overkill.

                                    Yeah I need to widen it 30mm all around I believe to be eligible to race which isn't a big deal. So tracking it in the future is a part of the plan. Also turbo and stuff in the future planning to make 300hp in 2300lb car . I want some sticky tires to hook.
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                                    Right now primarily just want good tires so I don't break loose. Then looking ahead for advice on a sticky tire for turbo time
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                                      Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                      Yeah I need to widen it 30mm all around I believe to be eligible to race which isn't a big deal. So tracking it in the future is a part of the plan. Also turbo and stuff in a few years planning to make 300hp in 2300lb car . I want some sticky tires to hook.
                                      Right now primarily just want good tires so I don't break loose. Then looking ahead for advice on a sticky tire for turbo time
                                      Wouldn't you be better off just getting the Abarth if you're wanting to track a 500?
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                                        Originally posted by Miguel
                                        Wouldn't you be better off just getting the Abarth if you're wanting to track a 500?
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                                          Originally posted by Miguel
                                          Wouldn't you be better off just getting the Abarth if you're wanting to track a 500?

                                          I already have a fiat, why would I want to spend several thousands more to buy another one?

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                                            Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                            Yeah I need to widen it 30mm all around I believe to be eligible to race which isn't a big deal. So tracking it in the future is a part of the plan. Also turbo and stuff in the future planning to make 300hp in 2300lb car . I want some sticky tires to hook.
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                                            Right now primarily just want good tires so I don't break loose. Then looking ahead for advice on a sticky tire for turbo time

                                            Regardless of the tire you're going to break em loose. Just ask Nirusan about how much grip he has in his focus. Unfortunately that's the nature of FWD vehicles.

                                            There's no point on putting track tires on a car that wont see a track unless you're looking for street cred/swag. Buy some proper street tires for now then start looking at track tires when you're actually eligible to race on a track.
                                             
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                                              Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                              I already have a fiat, why would I want to spend several thousands more to buy another one?


                                              An abarth can be tracked as is unlike your current car. You'll be spending a lot more money getting it to abarth territory than it would have cost to buy an abarth.

                                              I understand you have first car syndrome with your fiat but practically and financially speaking it's probably better to just upgrade your platform.
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                                                Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                                Yeah I need to widen it 30mm all around I believe to be eligible to race which isn't a big deal. So tracking it in the future is a part of the plan. Also turbo and stuff in the future planning to make 300hp in 2300lb car . I want some sticky tires to hook.
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                                                Right now primarily just want good tires so I don't break loose. Then looking ahead for advice on a sticky tire for turbo time.

                                                You're going to be very, VERY hard pressed to find a tire that will allow you to hook up like you envision hooking up. It's just the downfall of FWD platforms. I bought Rivals in hopes that they'd provide more grip on the street and I have to say there was absolutely no difference on the street compared to my OEM Eagle F1's. Most, if not all track tires require some serious heat in them to really shine. You're not going to be able to generate this type of heat on the street very easily.

                                                I'm actually "downgrading" from the Rivals to Michelin PSS's this year because of a couple reasons. First the tread ware of the Rivals is awful for a daily driven vehicle. I'm down to the wear bars on the Rivals and I didn't track my car that often last year (3 events IIRC). The Rivals were also quite sketchy when encountering pooled water. It's honestly not worth running a track-oriented tire on the street because you want your car "to hook".
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                                                  Originally posted by Igor

                                                  An abarth can be tracked as is unlike your current car. You'll be spending a lot more money getting it to abarth territory than it would have cost to buy an abarth.

                                                  I understand you have first car syndrome with your fiat but practically and financially speaking it's probably better to just upgrade your platform.

                                                  Totally untrue. Fiats deprecate like hot rocks. For what I could possibly sell my car for I would loose probably 10k on it cause I paid a fair penny , and I understand cars depreciate but I barely drive it so I can't justify loosing that money. Then to buy an abarth with only 20,000 miles on it would cost me around 20k if not more like 25k so then I'm out even more money.
                                                  Tracking it isn't the primary goal. I just want to take it to the track every now and then. Maybe once a year.
                                                  My fiat already has a way better suspension set up than an abarth, and is only down 25whp so around a track with good tires I bet I'd outrun a stock one all day.


                                                  Originally posted by Nirusan
                                                  You're going to be very, VERY hard pressed to find a tire that will allow you to hook up like you envision hooking up. It's just the downfall of FWD platforms. I bought Rivals in hopes that they'd provide more grip on the street and I have to say there was absolutely no difference on the street compared to my OEM Eagle F1's. Most, if not all track tires require some serious heat in them to really shine. You're not going to be able to generate this type of heat on the street very easily.

                                                  I'm actually "downgrading" from the Rivals to Michelin PSS's this year because of a couple reasons. First the tread ware of the Rivals is awful for a daily driven vehicle. I'm down to the wear bars on the Rivals and I didn't track my car that often last year (3 events IIRC). The Rivals were also quite sketchy when encountering pooled water. It's honestly not worth running a track-oriented tire on the street because you want your car "to hook".

                                                  I used that term very loosely . By "hook" I meant not spinning under 60... Lmao
                                                  The tire wearing fast isn't a big concern it's just tire performance overall I'm looking at . I only drive the car once a week, twice if I'm lucky. I completely understand the heat concept though. You want something that bites when you want it, not 10 pulls later.

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