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September 08, 2016, 02:01 AM #0

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Hello,

Thinking of getting a set of GT Radial Champiro WinterPro HP before snow hits. I will be replacing Blizzaks, I'm just not sure if it's worth it.

Price difference is at $100 per tire.

thoughts?

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    September 08, 2016, 05:40 AM #1

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    Everyone's going to have different thoughts and opinions on this.
    Personally, I don't think snow tires are a requirement if you have a good set of all seasons more of just a luxury. With that being said, anything is better than nothing. A bottom of the barrel snow tire will still probably perform better than an all season because it's soft tire compound. Will they be just as good as blizzaks? Probably not, but maybe that's all you can afford and as I said, somethings obviously better than nothing.


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      September 08, 2016, 06:59 AM #2

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      What size of tire are you looking for? Have you checked pmctire.com for deals?

      A low end snow tire may act slightly better than a higher end all season tire in the snow.

      You also have the option to go through mpi's program and get a better set of tires and take a  longer period of time to pay em off if money is tight.


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        September 08, 2016, 01:22 PM #3

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        Originally posted by Igor
        What size of tire are you looking for? Have you checked pmctire.com for deals?

        A low end snow tire may act slightly better than a higher end all season tire in the snow.

        You also have the option to go through mpi's program and get a better set of tires and take a  longer period of time to pay em off if money is tight.


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        It's 245/40/r18, got a deal with Winnipeg Wheel Works... they will not charge me for Mounting and balancing (and hopefully installation) since I'm going to have my rims painted and buy tires at the same time.

        The only reason I asked is because... I can buy more car parts if I cheap out on winter tires. lol

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          Well i'm sure any winter tire would be better than an all season but I wouldn't cheap out on something that is the only contact between the car and the road, especially in the winter.
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            Originally posted by Madbuzz41
            Everyone's going to have different thoughts and opinions on this.
            Personally, I don't think snow tires are a requirement if you have a good set of all seasons more of just a luxury. With that being said, anything is better than nothing. A bottom of the barrel snow tire will still probably perform better than an all season because it's soft tire compound. Will they be just as good as blizzaks? Probably not, but maybe that's all you can afford and as I said, somethings obviously better than nothing.


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            Going to agree with this 100%
            I've also run GT radial tires in the past, not specifically winters, but summers, and I had no issues with the tires. i wouldn't say they are a bad brand from my experience.

              September 08, 2016, 06:29 PM #6

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              http://toptierimports.com/index.php?topic=11591.0

              Any winter tire will perform better than an all-season.
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                Cheap Winter tires are way better than any all season I've used. Think I had a set of Winter Claw? Tires. Ran about $135 a tire for 225/40/18.

                Only issue is on the third remount 2 sidewalls broke. Should of just got a designated Winter wheels.

                I would buy again.

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                  Originally posted by MarvinM10
                  http://toptierimports.com/index.php?topic=11591.0

                  Any winter tire will perform better than an all-season.
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                    Another option is getting the cheaper winter tires studded (around $30 a tire I think) I ran studs last year and yes, it is annoying on pavement as they wear out and can slide but when it's icy/snowy you stop on a dime and it's well worth it in my opinion.


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                      I always get mine studded. Gotta go easy on dry pavement, but on the highway when it's straight ice, I wouldn't want anything else on my car.

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                        Originally posted by #StreetFocus
                        I always get mine studded. Gotta go easy on dry pavement, but on the highway when it's straight ice, I wouldn't want anything else on my car.
                        Ya all my future sets will be studded for sure. People don't realize the difference until they stop on ice with studs and find out how big of a difference it makes.


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                          The truth is, I used to cheap out on tires (I still don't spend a whole lot) but when you compare good tires to less good tires, even if you could safely get around, it's less fun. It's hard to see all that money go at once, but good tires are one of the best modifications you can do to improve your driving experience. That said, cost is not always an indicator of performance, and it's not necessary to get the absolute best tire available. There are definitely worse things you could do than run cheap winters, like run all season or summer tires.
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                            Originally posted by Igor
                            Well i'm sure any winter tire would be better than an all season but I wouldn't cheap out on something that is the only contact between the car and the road, especially in the winter.
                            This.

                            I have never purchased brand new winter tires. There should be a ton of options on Kijiji.

                            What tread depth are your Blizzak's? Why are you replacing them?

                              September 09, 2016, 07:09 AM #14

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                              Originally posted by themikewoo
                              This.

                              I have never purchased brand new winter tires. There should be a ton of options on Kijiji.

                              What tread depth are your Blizzak's? Why are you replacing them?
                              It got stolen. :(

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                                Definitely go on kijiji.
                                I bought a used set there. You mnay even find a set of used "good" winter tires for cheaper than the new "cheap" tires you're referring to
                                Originally posted by Madbuzz41
                                I'm not a fan of blowing for a long time anyways ; )


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                                  I've been burnt with tires from Kijiji. They might looks fine but as soon as they're mounted or under pressure cords could be letting go. Usually from improper storage.

                                  Luckily for me the seller returned my money.
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                                    Originally posted by cluelessk
                                    I've been burnt with tires from Kijiji. They might looks fine but as soon as they're mounted or under pressure cords could be letting go. Usually from improper storage.

                                    Luckily for me the seller returned my money.
                                    Damn that is bad luck. What was the manufacturing date? My personal rule of thumb when buying tires is no more than 4 years.

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                                      I picked up a set of near new winter tires on steel rims WITH the TPS in them for 300. Oem ford steel rims.

                                      Spring/summer is the best time to find deals on winter tires.

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                                        Originally posted by Battle Design
                                        I picked up a set of near new winter tires on steel rims WITH the TPS in them for 300. Oem ford steel rims.

                                        Spring/summer is the best time to find deals on winter tires.

                                        Damn that's a good deal cause those TPS are so expensive. I got a set of Goodyear snow tires mounted on steel rims that were only driven on for 4 weeks for $200


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                                          I've personally driven on the winterpro's
                                          weren't too bad, back when I had my 99 bmw 323i I had 4 of them on, went through winter with little to no issues, this was 3 winters ago but working at the tire shop here we sell a lot of low cost winter tires, many people agree that even a low cost winter out performs their top grade all season tires.
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                                            I used to work at one of the bigger Tire Distributors in the city(Supplied most tire shops) And Sold alot of those Champiros. Good winter tire and always heard good things about them
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                                              Thanks for all the input @Madbuzz41 @Igor @DonR @benz88 @themikewoo  @cluelessk @firelizard and to the others I can't tag for some reason! I need more help,
                                              Found this ad on Kijiji, rubber looks good... and it comes complete with rims. Just not sure how would it fit my car.

                                              Currently running the ff: wheel specs with no issue:
                                              Bolt pattern: 5x114.3
                                              Centerbore: 56.1mm
                                              Wheel size: 18 x 8.5"
                                              Offset: +55mm
                                              Tire: 245/40R18

                                              This ad's wheel spec:
                                              18x8
                                              +35 offset
                                              5x114.3 bolt pattern Monte Titano Rims,
                                              TPMS and wheel covers

                                              The major difference is the offset, not sure how +35mm offset would affect the fitment compare to my original +55mm.

                                              Please advise.

                                              Thanks!
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                                                @jon08 I like to use this website for tire and wheel fitting information: http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=40&diameter=18&wheelwidth=8.5&offset=55&width2=245&aspect2=40&wheel_size=18&wheel_width=8&offset2=35#isPage=1

                                                Based on the site, the setup you found on kijiji will sit almost 1.5 centimetres closer to your fender (stick out) than your current setup. I don't know for sure if this will work on your car or not but I would recommend checking out a Subaru forum like NASIOC as I find they usually have some sort of wheel fitment thread that will tell you what will work for your specific platform.

                                                Another thing you need to check is the center bore. It must be at least the same size as the factory wheels or bigger.

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                                                  Originally posted by jon08
                                                  Thanks for all the input @Madbuzz41 @Igor @DonR @benz88 @themikewoo  @cluelessk @firelizard and to the others I can't tag for some reason! I need more help,
                                                  Found this ad on Kijiji, rubber looks good... and it comes complete with rims. Just not sure how would it fit my car.

                                                  Currently running the ff: wheel specs with no issue:
                                                  Bolt pattern: 5x114.3
                                                  Centerbore: 56.1mm
                                                  Wheel size: 18 x 8.5"
                                                  Offset: +55mm
                                                  Tire: 245/40R18

                                                  This ad's wheel spec:
                                                  18x8
                                                  +35 offset
                                                  5x114.3 bolt pattern Monte Titano Rims,
                                                  TPMS and wheel covers

                                                  The major difference is the offset, not sure how +35mm offset would affect the fitment compare to my original +55mm.

                                                  Please advise.

                                                  Thanks!
                                                  14mm closer to the fender. That's about a pinky width, so well within acceptable for just about any stock vehicle. Keep in mind though that if you have a tire that bulges a bit past the wheel rim, you need to consider that in your fitment.
                                                  Last Edit: September 11, 2016, 09:30 PM by firelizard

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