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January 03, 2015, 03:52 PM #0

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           Hey over the Christmas break I was talking to my brother, he was filling me in on 3d printing and what it means for the car scene. Apt out on the East coast they are starting to pick up the movement. As of now there are a few companies out there doing some big things, guys as printing everything from heads to headers, then sand casting the plastic moulds. The image is one such head.

    Wondering if anyone else on here has been looking into this.

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    January 03, 2015, 05:58 PM #1

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    Wait the headers are made of plastic? Or just cased in plastic?
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      January 03, 2015, 06:15 PM #2

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      Originally posted by Vinny26
      Wait the headers are made of plastic? Or just cased in plastic?

      Print the mold then sand cast it.
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        January 03, 2015, 07:31 PM #3

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        They've printed full body panels for cars already. http://localmotors.com/3d-printed-car/#panel1c
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           yea, and everything from half shafts to heads. I.E. there is a guy who designed 4 age heads (like the old racing ones for the ae86) that Toyota  used to run on  their racing teams in the late 80's. cutting down cost and making acesse to them at an affordable price.
           

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            Originally posted by Igor
            They've printed full body panels for cars already. http://localmotors.com/3d-printed-car/#panel1c

            Red River College is building/built a full 3D printed car. Apparently Ford is interested in buying it for their museum.
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              January 03, 2015, 09:58 PM #6

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              Crazy how much technology has evolved! Brb I'm gonna go print myself an Evo X
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                January 03, 2015, 10:21 PM #7

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                I don't have a link to the article right now but they printed an electric car already. The printer was the size of a shipping container.
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                  January 03, 2015, 10:24 PM #8

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                  Originally posted by barrett
                  I don't have a link to the article right now but they printed an electric car already. The printer was the size of a shipping container.

                  Thats the link i posted.
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                    January 05, 2015, 11:14 AM #9

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                    There's kits out there that print the 3d printer part by part.
                    I've used 3d printed parts way back in the day working with a company called Stratasys. We were proving out some composite/plastics for propellers everything from wash out cores to expendable cores. I was making throttle body flanges to adapt 60 mm throttle body's to 70 mm  even made a set if ITB flanges where the geometry was so complex that it would have taken 1000s of $ to machine outta billet.  The best thing was once it was printed it was ready to use - as plastic. Now they are printing metal parts.. I knew it would be a matter of time

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                      January 05, 2015, 11:49 AM #10

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                      Not just metal parts but they are using 3D printing technology to build homes as well as biological uses. Pretty neat stuff.
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                        A team from Austria we compete against uses 3D printed titanium uprights. Also if you guys ever want to 3D print something for your rides and don't have access to the equipment at Red River, there's always AssentWorks.

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                          Koenigsegg has some crazy 3D printed turbos. All the Inside Koenigsegg videos are pretty great.



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                            I made 3d printed plastic rear disc brake adaptors for my 4wd honda civic. if you search thingiverse it's there.
                            it was my first time making something with autocad. I still have no idea what i'm doing. its just a miracle that it works.

                            other than that, I think 3d printers are useless even though I own one. plastic is not that cheap. and quality does suck making anything small & complex.
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                              January 06, 2015, 11:39 PM #14

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                              Originally posted by quad4tt
                              I made 3d printed plastic rear disc brake adaptors for my 4wd honda civic. if you search thingiverse it's there.
                              it was my first time making something with autocad. I still have no idea what i'm doing. its just a miracle that it works.

                              other than that, I think 3d printers are useless even though I own one. plastic is not that cheap. and quality does suck making anything small & complex.

                              I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I'm assuming you don't have a professional industry used 3D printer. Standard Aero printed a model of our Honda CBR600RR motor small enough to fit in the palm of your hand. Our intake is actually 3D printed as well. 3D printers have their pros and cons, they're great for pieces that would need 5+ axis CNC mills or pieces that simply cannot be machined. The biggest downside is obviously the cost.

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                                Here's part of our intake freshly 3D printed
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                                  Originally posted by kdavidmazur
                                  Here's part of our intake freshly 3D printed

                                  Sick! What material is that made from? I'm hoping to get into Assentworks sometime soon just to use their 3D scanner hehe.
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                                    Originally posted by Igor
                                    Sick! What material is that made from? I'm hoping to get into Assentworks sometime soon just to use their 3D scanner hehe.
                                    I'd have to ask the engine section head, I don't know off the top of my head. I do know it isn't ABS plastic because we were having issues last year with fuel vapors eating away at it.

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                                      I never even thought about this for automotive uses. Wonder how much it would cost to get a body kit made lol.

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                                        Originally posted by EvoMR
                                        I never even thought about this for automotive uses. Wonder how much it would cost to get a body kit made lol.

                                        A hell of a lot right now. Something that fits in the palm of your hand could cost hundreds depending on the printer resolution (quality). It is still cheaper to just make molds. I'm sure once 3D printing becomes more mainstream we will see a decrease in price.
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                                          January 15, 2015, 12:48 PM #20

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                                          Originally posted by Igor
                                          A hell of a lot right now. Something that fits in the palm of your hand could cost hundreds depending on the printer resolution (quality). It is still cheaper to just make molds. I'm sure once 3D printing becomes more mainstream we will see a decrease in price.
                                          I find it pretty crazy how people are making full size cars with 3d printing down in the USA.  I wonder how long it will take till we see something like that up here in mainstream.   Also, now seeing that people are making reliable and driveable parts for vehicles (IE the turbo for the Koenigsegg) is really slick.   Its only a matter of time before we see cars fully made by 3D Printing. (which could obviously take 25 years, but still would be cool to see in our generation)

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                                            Originally posted by Dan
                                            I find it pretty crazy how people are making full size cars with 3d printing down in the USA.  I wonder how long it will take till we see something like that up here in mainstream.   Also, now seeing that people are making reliable and driveable parts for vehicles (IE the turbo for the Koenigsegg) is really slick.   Its only a matter of time before we see cars fully made by 3D Printing. (which could obviously take 25 years, but still would be cool to see in our generation)

                                            "full size cars" is a subjective term. Most cars that have 3D printed body panels are usually 1-2 seaters and fairly small (think smart car). It's not a very mainstream process in the states as only a handful of cars have 3D printed panels.

                                            I agree though, it would be cool to be able to create a 3D car. Imagine how many "options" it opens up. If you didn't like a line or something you could get someone to adjust it and print it. Want your fenders wider? no problem just change up the design and bam.
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                                              Originally posted by Igor
                                              "full size cars" is a subjective term. Most cars that have 3D printed body panels are usually 1-2 seaters and fairly small (think smart car). It's not a very mainstream process in the states as only a handful of cars have 3D printed panels.

                                              I agree though, it would be cool to be able to create a 3D car. Imagine how many "options" it opens up. If you didn't like a line or something you could get someone to adjust it and print it. Want your fenders wider? no problem just change up the design and bam.


                                              In 50+ years everything will be made with this or similar technology. My official prediction.

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                                                It amazes me how far this technology has come and how wide the uses for it are. This is definitely the way of the future. Not sure how I feel about it still.
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